Jeff Rense & Henry Makow Are At War! (and boy is the fur flying!)

http://anonymousforresponsiblejournalism.blogspot.co.nz/2012/02/using-our-internet-platforms-to-defame.html

http://www.henrymakow.com/many_feuds_of_jeff_rense.html

The Hidden Jeff Rense
Despite making in excess of $450K from his web site, radio show and  businesses, twice a year he duns his readers for "donations." If we are going to expose others, we had better be prepared to look honestly at ourselves.
http://www.henrymakow.com/thehiddenjeff_rense.html

Henry Makow is "exposing" Jeff Rense.

Of course we know the raging misogynist Henry Makow needs no exposing.  It's always been perfectly clear what HE is.

This is like reading about 2 land owners in a different world fighting over the border of their garden.

Each trying to piss the other off with the nost annoying thing they can think of.

Entertaining but completely telling and rediculious. I would think if they concoted this to get more publicity it is backfiring horribly.

Oh, this is classic:

If we are going to expose others, we had better be prepared to look honestly at ourselves.

Uh, yeah, you misogynistic piece of shite.

Henry Mackow is a blathering idiot.  And Jeff Rense ain't no peach, either.

Wonder if he ever [Mackow] found the "perfect" Asian woman?  What a loon.

Jeff replies (again):

"All the while, he grosses over $400,000 a year. (To be fair, he does work 24/7.)"

REPLY -  'Fair'?  What, pray tell, is remotely 'Fair' about this libel?  What is earned or isn't earned  is my private business.  I will offer that I am anything but 'rich', am approximately $800,000 in debt, pay 30-40% of what I do EARN to the IRS, and have enormous expenses running the site and radio network operations.  The wholesale costs products are extremely high, and dozens of other obligations which must be paid.  To throw such a figure around is a typical zionist ploy.

In fact, I work 12-14 hours a day, 365 days a year, closing in on 14 years without a single unencumbered day off.  Never a vacation...the news never stops.  I earn every single penny I am fortunate to make and if I were clever, I'd be earning a lot more.  I have old-fashioned work ethics and want to make sure my products - news and all intellectual properties - are as good as I can humanly make them.

How am I $800,000 in debt?  I will tell you.  I am a single father and raised my 16 month old child singlehandedly.  I lost everything twice and went bankrupt once stemming from 15 years in court.  I fought and clawed my way back from oblivion while being a single father both times...it was not easy.  I have been self-supporting financially since I was eleven years old so I know how NOT to be a quitter...nor am I a victim.

http://www.rense.com/general95/1jrcomm.html

Oh one of the best bits is Jeff is now accusing Henry of being a Zionist!

Oh and Jeff bought a house which had NO foundations.

No foundations, good grief......

Jeff:

Life is full of challenges. Not the least of which are lowlife, lying, subhuman, contrived libel and defamation attacks.

"His website is an important center of opposition to the New World Order.  In the face of this mortal threat, we expect someone in his position to unite instead of divide us."

REPLY -  A truly hilarious statement.  Who, in fact, created this libel? Who is the one attempting to divide 'us'?  This is a putrid, rudely obvious effort at projection of one's own artifice upon the victim target.  It is not journalism, it is not fighting for Liberty and Freedom...it is pure evil.

I think he just called Makow pure evil.  I'd go along with that. 

Interesting bit here from Jeff Rense in the above article:

As we ALL should know by now, the best way to control the opposition is to create and launch it 'overnight' and then manipulate it. The internet is loaded with such disinformation sites.  Who are they?  Your guess is as good as mine. 

I have even been duped into presenting disinformation, unknowingly, over these nearly two decades.  It happens to everyone.

Having watched how sites are created and launched with a major saturation technique, it doesn't require a PhD in Physics to figure out which sites might be creations of the government in some form or another.  In fact, there have been many recent, extensive expose' articles about how the government controls vast areas of the internet and has created great numbers of sites and 'personalities' to do their bidding.  That, boys and girls, is just how the game is played.  If the manipulators and propagandists have to put out solid gold, true information to further their overall control of the alternative news on the internet, they will, and are, doing so all the time.  It is, indeed, an 'alternative news saturation ploy'. 

Ha, ha, ha.

That's pretty good propaganda there, Jeffy boy.

Yep, that's darn good.

Pretty much everything on his site is disinformation.  For god's sake, the idiot had Henry Mackow on there for YEARS.

Oh one of the best bits is Jeff is now accusing Henry of being a Zionist!

-emeline

Holy living criminey.  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!  These people are insane.  Truly and literally insane.

Which is why I haven't been on Rense in a long, long time.  I got sick of his, "The JOOS did it.  They did it all!" while trying to pick through the shite to find the few good articles he has.

These guys all remind me of the religious jackasses: they cannot keep from fighting each other.  Or having a swipe at how they are more righteous than the next guy.

What a bunch of idiots.

How am I $800,000 in debt?  I will tell you.  I am a single father and raised my 16 month old child singlehandedly.  I lost everything twice and went bankrupt once stemming from 15 years in court.  I fought and clawed my way back from oblivion while being a single father both times...it was not easy.  I have been self-supporting financially since I was eleven years old so I know how NOT to be a quitter...nor am I a victim.
 
 
MmmmHmmmm...........

I was in a crazy mood tonight Lou and read most of the Rense versus Makow fight.  Wow!  Is it ugly.  And they're dragging lots of other names into it too, Ken Adachi for one (Educate.yourself I think?)

Oh and somewhere along the line I read someone talking about Makow "having just been recently divorced".

I hardly ever go to Rense these days because I got sick of him trying to blame Israel for everything but also I was horrified that he EVER linked to Henry Makow.

I was reading Clff High's latest bit of fear mongering:
http://halfpasthuman.com/mediaunbound.html and I thought, wow, HONESTLY, most of these tinfoil and conspiracy sites are appalling.

Homophobic
Sexist
Racist
Anti-welfare
Endless fear mongering
etc

Is it more than coincidence that so many of them seem to be run by men who sound very immature or like deranged right wing fanatics?

And the message of most of these types of sites seems to be to reinforce the message that "you're powerless" against this NWO, this Illuminati, this incredibly powerful secret group which rules the world.......their "answer" for everyone is to spend hundreds on "survival gear" with them or their advertisers.

When did you see any of them offer any truly inspired  ways to make some positive changes in the world? 

All they do is ramp up the negativity and fear, negativity and fear.........which for one thing makes people PASSIVE and maybe that's exactly what some of those sites are DESIGNED to do...

Em, I've noticed the exact same thing- that almost all of these guys are right-wingers:  Jay Weidner, Icke, Rense, GLP, Steve what's-his-name (the kook from Montana,)  etc. etc.

I have yet to see any of them that aren't, actually.  Which, just to put on the old tinfoil hat, makes one wonder exactly who funds these yahoos......

You know, keepin' it tinfoil...... 

Anyway....yes, it's nothing but fear, fear, fear.  Which reminds me a lot of what the "officials" are doing, too, doesn't it?

Ha!  That's quite the little bit from Clif!  Very interesting.

Well, if all goes as planned, they won't have a choice.  They will be COMPELLED to tell the truth....and REVEAL all.....

Can I just say this?  At the risk of you all giving me some serious business.....

But......

I am pulled in two different directions these days about the doomerism.

I'll think:  I really ought to go out and buy "X" to replace some stuff I've used.  I kind of get that old urgency, you know?  A feeling I really don't like.

And then, at that very instant, I also think:  Why would you want to do that?  The world is changing.  It isn't going to be the same, and you don't want to be part of the old paradigm of fear and clutching and buying and hoarding and all of that.

I don't know what to think, really.

All I know is that I get the strong suspicion that what is coming up doesn't have anything to do with what has gone before.  And I don't want the taint of that old mentality on me when the new comes.

Okay, let me hear it.

I do have to say this about something Clif said:

decades of pressurized mainstream media whoredom
 
DECADES??!!  He obviously hasn't read about the Hearst empire.  Let's try since the inception of newspapers, at the very least.

Hell, probably since the inception of the newsbarkers on the corners in ancient civilizations.

At the risk that Clif has just recently watched 'What the Bleep Do We Know?'    I will post this from THE post:

Your destiny arrives in March. How shall you greet it? By hiding in fear holes, or by manifesting new potential, probability and outcome?
 
That's just how I feel now.  That I am sick of the fear, of the old paradigm; of which I was most certainly a part.

It's just so OLD.  So archaic.  So dead.

And when I start to say, "I could be wrong about that," I can't even really feel that anymore.

Em, you say it all the time:

"The world has changed.
I see it in the water.
I feel it in the Earth.
I smell it in the air.
Much that once was is lost,
For none now live who remember it."
 
Only it seems like it's for good, not ill.  No matter how ugly their headlines are these days.  And we need to remember:  they are THEIR headlines.

Anyway, I guess we'll see.  Most certainly their book talks about the end of the world, horrible war, and sickening events.  But that's THEIR book.

There's another book, maybe just written in our hearts, but it's a book  we all know.  A book of peace on earth (without the sickening parts,) a book of goodness, a book of kindness, a book of compassion for every living thing.  Including plants and plankton.  A much different world.

I could be wrong, but.....

I am also sick of the fear-mongering - it does no one any good, except for those who seeking power and money. People fear losing their jobs, families, homes, all their shiny toys. They fear the bogey man around every corner, just as they have been taught to do. 

There is a cheesy film that I just love called 'Defending Your Life' and I love it partly for this line: 

'Fear is like a giant fog. It sits on your brain and blocks everything - real feelings, true happiness, real joy. They can't get through that fog. But you lift it, and buddy, you're in for the ride of your life!'  


It tells me to put my 'Fuck You, Pal' hat on, get on with what I believe in and damned well enjoy it while I do 

-I am pulled in two different directions these days about the doomerism.
 
BOOM! Me too! It's the exact same thing. I am currently waging a war on whether or not to buy that ceramic bucket water filter thing.

Yeah yeah ..On one hand it would be handy ..IF

But on the other ..I am having a very strong feeling ..I wont actually be requiring it where we are going soon.